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PostSubject: How much protein is too much?   Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:42 am

Just wondering what everybody's thoughts on protein content were?
I mean how much is too much?
The wafers I am using at the moment are a min of 33% protein and I am wondering if that is a shade to high for our bristly little friends?
I have looked around for an alternate and most of the discs on the market seem to contain heaps of spirulina, which I'm fairly sure is bad in higher amounts so any suggestions?

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PostSubject: Re: How much protein is too much?   Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:40 am

Hi Aussie guy i feed mine Hikari brand wafers and as yet have had no problems they demolish them as soon as they go i tank mate
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PostSubject: Re: How much protein is too much?   Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:29 pm

I have used algae wafers with min protein of 40% with no ill effect, although I never feed wafers more than twice a week and only once a week if I feed bloodworm, I prefer giving my BN's lots of different veg and fruits rather than dried food.

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PostSubject: Re: How much protein is too much?   Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:06 pm

its an interesting question. I find that some fish are more prone to it than others and that what is right for some might be poor for others depending on tank conditions. Personally i like to go with the vege option as it is more like their natural diet which is high volume, low nutrient value.

I feed mine a flake food which is a combo of several different brands once a week to give them a protein boost but their staple is veges. if their staple is the flake food then i would keep a close eye on them

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PostSubject: Re: How much protein is too much?   Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:49 am

hmm im not feeding mine on veg at all, just sera catfish chips which is willow and alder wood and hikari algae wafers which is a high veg chip. i just switch wafers from one the the other. Have been feeding since i got my little ones at 2cm and they are fine. I just make sure there environment is health by changing water 2-3 times a week and giving them a heavy planted tank and have not had seen any signs of a weak fish. Specially after today when my heater was turned off and they survived 14 degrees water all night.
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PostSubject: Re: How much protein is too much?   Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:58 am

There is a list of veg that BN's will eat HERE, the algae wafers and catfish chips are excellent foods but adding veg will add more variety to their diet. as Doug mentioned veg is a more natural way of feeding, Bn.s have long intestinal tracts which help extract as much nutrition possible from low nutrient foods, basically in nature they have to eat large quantities of low nutrient foods.



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PostSubject: Re: How much protein is too much?   Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:57 pm

I do use veggies as my staple and they love it. I swear my fish eat better than I do some days Wink

I was reading the label on the wafers that I give them from time and yeah just got curious, would it be fair to say that up to 40% is ok providing its not used as a staple?
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PostSubject: Re: How much protein is too much?   Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:23 pm

Aussie guy wrote:
I do use veggies as my staple and they love it. I swear my fish eat better than I do some days Wink

I know what you mean lol!

Aussie guy wrote:
I was reading the label on the wafers that I give them from time and yeah just got curious, would it be fair to say that up to 40% is ok providing its not used as a staple?

40%-45% should not be a problem when it's used as a complintary food.



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PostSubject: Re: How much protein is too much?   Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:42 pm

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PostSubject: Tetra discus   Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:03 am

Today I fed my fishes with Tetra Discus! What do you think about this food! Crude protein 47.5%, crude oils and fats 6,5%, crude fiber 2,0% vitamines A, D, mangan 67 mg/kg, zinc 40 mg/kg, Fe 26 mg/kg. This are the main components of this food.
Just wanted to know your opinion!!! Cheers!!!
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PostSubject: Re: How much protein is too much?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:26 pm

depends on what fish you are feeding it to?

if its bristlenose then that is going to kill them very quickly, if its discus then its going to be ok.


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PostSubject: Re: How much protein is too much?   Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:29 pm

If you keep discus and bn in the same tank then when feeding high protein discus food it is important to feed sparingly. Just enough for the discus to eat before it hits the bottom. Also placing some veg in the tank will take foraging off the bns mind

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PostSubject: Re: How much protein is too much?   Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:27 am

I intended to feed only the bn but I will quit to give them Tetra Discus. I tried to feed them with diversed food every day like spirulina tabs with cucumber or catfish chips with zucchini. What do you think about this idea ( vegs in the morning and in the evening dry food)? From time to time i use the trick with the garlic. In the tank i have only bn. I hope soon to make some pictures...
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PostSubject: Re: How much protein is too much?   Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:01 am

It really depends on the fish in question.

For instance LDA16 needs more veggies, but L134s requires more protein.
For the latter I give frozen bloodworms, but discus gran, as well.

Although from time-to-time (after spawning) I do feed my L144 with a bit more protein (bloodworm, tubifex)
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PostSubject: Re: How much protein is too much?   Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:14 am

You cant really go wrong with veges and algae wafers. just as long as you do not over feed them and the food begins to rot in the bottom of the tank. I do alternate between veges and algae wafers depending on various things including the price of veges!

I also do throw in some flake food about once a week to give them some extra protein but only a little.

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